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Hi Karisa! Really great question. First, I want to take the pressure off of you to find the perfect verbs/verb phrases to search for. Your negative inner critical voice will try to convince you that you have to have the *perfect* search terms or else you’re doomed to never find a job you’ll love, but that’s not the truth. That negative voice is just freaking out because it’s afraid that you’ll be disappointed, so it doesn’t even want you to try — but your inner loving voice is the one you can trust here.
So don’t worry about finding the perfect search phrases (in fact, don’t even stress about whether or not they’re actually verbs), and instead try all kinds of different variations on the things you’d like to do. For example, you said you’d like to “organize the team in fun activities like a potluck,” so you could search for: “organize team activities,” “plan group events,” “social coordinator,” “organize social outings,” etc. Each time you change up the wording a little, you’ll likely find new things, and then you’ll start to see what phrases get you closer to jobs that actually sound exciting.
Remember, you only need a few search phrases to get started. As you find jobs that sound interesting, you can always borrow their language to add to your list of searchable phrases. So you definitely don’t need a complete list before you can get started!
Do you know that game kids play where they hide something and then help someone find it by saying “warmer” or “colder” as they’re getting closer or further away from whatever they hid? That’s kind of what you’re doing here. Your goal is to play around with different search phrases until you get warmer and warmer (as in, closer and closer to the ideal job).
Hope that helps! š
Kristen WModeratorWelcome Stefanie! So happy you’re here!
It seriously makes me so happy to hear that discovering your Thriver nature has felt like such a relief to you. You’re right — it’s so much pressure to feel like you’ve got to pick ONE passion or career path and stick with it forever, even though that’s what so many people will tell you to do. And if you’re a Thriver/Side Hustler combo, that advice is going to feel particularly unhelpful … and just flat-out wrong.
I’m really excited you’re here, and I hope you’ll let us know how this process goes for you! Feel free to pop in here to share any questions or “ah-ha” moments you have along the way. š
Kristen WModeratorHi Mitch,
Glad you enjoyed the webinar yesterday! Kudos to you for waking up at 5am for it — that’s impressive! š
And good question — we can absolutely talk about additional payment plans for 1-on-1 coaching, if you decide you want to continue with that. Plus, you may or may not have received an email to let you know about this yet, but we do offer a discount on 1-on-1 coaching if you sign up within 30 days of purchasing this course. So that would help, too!
Kristen WModeratorHi Mitch,
That makes perfect sense. It sounds like coming up with and researching the ideas isn’t the problem … it’s matching your career (or business) ideas with who you are as a person (values, desires, logistics, etc.) that’s the hard part. I totally get that. Deeply understanding your Passion Profile combo (along with other factors and qualities about yourself) makes it a lot easier to recognize what will be a good fit for you vs. what never will, even if it’s a great idea in theory.
And yes, we do currently have a few spots open for 1-on-1 coaching clients. So if you think you might be interested in that, first read this page where we fully explain our process & offerings, and then fill out this sign-up form to talk to one of us about possibly working together.
Kristen WModeratorHi Mitch! So glad you decided to join us for this course. š
Sounds to me like you’re a seeker with a lot of ambition and ideas. That’s an awesome gift! The challenge can be in choosing which of your many ideas and ambitions to follow through with, and then not working so hard that you burn yourself out before you can turn your idea into reality. The good news is, you’re clearly an introspective person who is very interested in getting more and more self-aware. So as you learn more about yourself, you’ll have an easier time choosing what to pursue and knowing what your limits are so you don’t burn out as often.
This course will definitely help you with all of that, since at its core, this is a course about understanding yourself on a deeper level. And if you feel like you still need more individualized support after you’re done with this program, Rachel or I would be happy to talk with you about 1-on-1 coaching options.
I hope you’ll come back and let us know how this program goes for you! Feel free to ask us any questions or share any insights you have as you’re going through it.
Kristen WModeratorHi Kalei,
As far I as I know, you’re right about upward and freelancer being focused more on technical skills, like web design and virtual assistant work and that kind of thing. But there are plenty of remote jobs in just about EVERY industry and skill set. It doesn’t have to be freelance or contract work, either — it can be just like having a longer term part- or full-time job, just working from your home office instead of going into an office.
Here are a few sites where you can search for some work-from-home jobs (Iām sure there are lots more, plus you can always find them on big sites like Indeed as well, but here are just a few to get you started):
I’m sure there are LOTS more sites devoted to remote working jobs, but those a few you can start with!
Kristen WModeratorHi Jason,
I’m so happy to hear that this course was s fulfilling for you and that it resonated with you more than other courses you’ve taken in the past. That means a lot!
You said that you’re not sure where your true passion lies, but based on your Thriver / Side Hustler profile combo, I have to say that you very well might not have one true passion — you probably have LOTS of interests, some of which you could possible combine with a career and others that you will simply want to pursue as fun/interesting hobbies. I would try to take the pressure off of yourself to figure out your one passion, and instead ask yourself, “What things do I most love doing? How do I most enjoy spending my time? What makes me extremely curious and fascinated?” You’ll likely come up with multiple answers, and they’re all valid! Then ask yourself, “What kind of lifestyle do I want to lead? How would I most like to divide up my time between work, side projects, and hobbies (along with other priorities in my life, like relationships and health)?” It’s perfectly acceptable to spend time and energy on things you absolutely love, but that may never pay you anything, and it’s also perfectly OK to have a career that’s not your #1 passion (if that would kill the joy of the thing(s) that most fascinate you. The goal is to get different needs and values met in various areas of your life — your career doesn’t have to fulfill every desire and value of yours (although it should bring you at least a few), if the rest of your life balances out the difference.
I hope that gives you a slightly different perspective and opens you up to some new ideas or creative ways to combine your various interests! And if you’re really struggling to identify WHAT you’re most interested in and passionate about and you’d like additional support with that, you may want to consider joining us for our follow-up course that’s opening for enrollment later this month. It’s called the Passion Plan Virtual Experience, and it’s more focused on WHAT you’d like to be doing in your career (and life in general), versus this Short Course which was more focused on HOW you’re meant to work that aligns with your values.
Thanks again for being part of this program, and I’m happy to hear you’ve gotten so much out of it already!
Kristen WModeratorHi Kalei,
I absolutely understand the frustration of not having a CHOICE about whether or not you’re working right now. If you’d taken this time away from work intentionally because you needed a break, you wanted to work on some other project, or to take a class, that would feel totally different. But this choice was kind of made for you, so it’s no wonder it’s getting under your skin a bit.
Have you considered looking into virtual/remote work of some kind? Even part-time or freelance work might help you feel like you’re gaining skills and experience in a proactive way. And it would give you a (paid!) project to devote part of each day to. Just an idea!
Kristen WModeratorHi Lisa! I love that the Thriver profile was so spot-on for you and gave you greater insight into yourself. That’s awesome! And I totally relate to the feeling that “life is my passion” — isn’t it so freeing to be able to say that??
It makes perfect sense that you’re feeling scared and uncertain about your next steps and stepping into your new identity after a recent divorce. Talk about a huge, emotionally charged life change!! Anyone would be feeling unsteady in that situation.
To answer your question … I’m thinking of 3 sections in the Workbook that would be incredibly helpful for you in finding a career that can support your passions and lifestyle outside of work:
— Visioning your ideal career (page 11)
— Job searching according to your values (page 14)
— Identifying your deal breakers (page 17)Have you worked through those sections yet? I think they could be incredibly clarifying for you, and you may find that you don’t actually need to go back to school to get a career that matches those specifications after all.
If you HAVE worked through those sections and you’re still feeling unsure of how to start looking for a job that suits your Thriver nature, you may just need some additional support. This course is really meant to help you figure out HOW you’re meant to work (as in, the kind of working situation that suits you best). Our 2nd course, The Passion Plan Virtual Experience, is focused more on WHAT you’d like to do as a career — it’s kind of the “step 2” of this process you’ve already started. We’ll be re-opening enrollment for that course next month, so if that sounds like something you’d be interested in, we’ll be sending out announcement emails about that in the coming weeks. (You’ll get a pretty steep discount on that program, too, since you’ve already taken this first course!)
Hope that helps! š
Kristen WModeratorHey Kalei! Sorry for a super delayed response — I was on vacation for the last 2 weeks. I’m glad the idea to separate work from cultural excursions was helpful!
It sounds to me like you’re doing (and have done) as much as possible to see what’s available career-wise right now. You’ve researched, you’ve connected with the right people, and you’ve done the introspective work. And yet, as I was reading your message, I kept thinking, “Maybe this isn’t a time for working for you. Maybe — like you mentioned — this is a time to regroup, recharge, and plan for the next things.” If you gave yourself permission to NOT pursue working at this very moment, it could open up space and curiosity that may naturally lead you to the next right thing when it IS time to return to work. Just my two cents! š
Oh, and I’m glad you loved that post on Analysis Paralysis! I definitely wrote from personal experience for that one. š
Kristen WModeratorHi Kalei! So happy to hear you’re feeling a lot more clear about what you want/don’t want in a career after going through this course. (Specific job titles are WAY less important than figuring out those deeper desires.)
First of all, I love how committed you are right now to making whatever strides you can toward preparing for your career transition once you go back home. You’ve got a great mindset right now about how you want to use this time productively while your husband is stationed in another country. That said, I absolutely understand your frustration about being in a country where you don’t speak the language, don’t have a core group of friends/family, and have a limited ability to network. I imagine it must feel pretty lonely sometimes! Especially for someone who’s primarily a Tribe Member. It’s no wonder you’re craving more engagement and community!
It might be just plain true that there aren’t many other expats around who can be helpful in your career exploration/preparation, but that doesn’t have to stop you from connecting with people in other parts of the world. I think it could be a great idea for you to find some people you’d like to ask for an informational interview (friends of friends, people you admire online, people you find when searching through LinkedIn, etc.), and then set up a phone or video call. It still amazes me that we live in a time when you can connect with people almost anywhere in the world (Rachel and I have coached people on every continent except Antarctica!), so there’s still a lot of connecting you can do virtually. And when you need some in-person community (because, of course, not everything can be virtual), you can go on cultural excursions with the other expats purely for the social connection without the pressure of making it relevant to your career, because you have other virtual contacts for that.
Just my two cents! Let me know what you think. š
Kristen WModeratorHey Amber! Excited to hear how things go as you’re building your coaching business! š
In the meantime, I agree that a bridge job would be a great idea for you as you make that career transition. While I’ve seen a variety of bridge jobs work for all kinds of people (including some Fire-Thrivers), it’s tough to give recommendations on the KIND of bridge job because it’s so different for each person. Really, it gets down to either what you’re naturally good at or what you enjoy (or, ideally, both!). Since a bridge job is meant to help you regain your energy & time (while still making money) as you work toward the next thing, you want to do something that’s pretty easy for you. For example, if you’re someone who’s naturally super organized and likes coordinating things/projects, then search for jobs based on those skills. If you love writing and can do it pretty easily, then search for writing jobs. If you love kids and they bring you joy & energy, then find ways you can work with kids.
I’ve had clients find bridge jobs of all shapes and sizes — office administrative work (that gave them some downtime to work on their own projects/business while AT work), working at a local gym (which they loved, & it eliminated their monthly gym fee), nannying, remote marketing writing/editing, transcribing, etc. — and the thing that made these jobs work was that it aligned with each person’s natural skills and/or interests. So I would have you examine your natural strengths, as well as things that simply bring you joy, and search for jobs based on those things to see what’s out there. Make sure to keep an open mind & think outside of the box! Sometimes bridge jobs can are things you’d never considered doing as a career, but they actually work out really well short-term.
Hope that helps spark some ideas for you!
Kristen WModeratorHi Samantha!
I’m so happy to hear that this course has helped you get so much clarity around what you want in your next role. That’s awesome! š
I can validate that you definitely do sound sure of what you want — in terms of what WILL and what WON’T work for you — in your next job. You’re embracing your Thriver values and recognizing your need for balance and predictability in your schedule (at least MOST of the time). That’s great!
So then, it makes perfect sense that your next question would be how to ask if companies where you’re interviewing share those values. I actually wrote an article for The Muse a while back about this exact thing, which you can read here, that walks you step-by-step through how to craft the perfect interview question to determine if a company shares your values. I hope that helps!
If you have follow-up questions after reading the article, let me know. Good luck on your upcoming interviews!
Kristen WModeratorHey Mary,
As a fellow introvert, I totally understand the extreme discomfort you must have felt in a customer-service position! Talking to people all day long (especially people who may be frustrated or upset) is incredibly draining for a true introvert. So I can see why going back to that position isn’t ideal for you! But I would absolutely try asking for a raise, using the recommendations in the Muse article (glad you found it helpful! š ).
I’m curious — have you looked into doing voice-overs as a full-time job? I know you don’t want a side job in addition to your full-time job (as a Thriver, that’s not going to fit with your values), but I imagine there must be full-time positions doing voice-overs. And you could possibly do it remotely, too, if you had the right equipment. Something to look into!
Kristen WModeratorHi Gillian,
It makes perfect sense that you’re worried about getting TOO focused on one subject matter (finance and billing) and, therefore, making it harder for yourself to move out of it. But I don’t think this is nearly as much of a barrier to getting a new job in a different field as you think it is! Yes, your main focus of this job is specialized in the finance world … but I’m confident that billing is NOT all you do all day long. You likely use LOTS of “soft skills” in addition to your technical knowledge. And those soft skills make you MUCH more appealing to other companies than you might think. Check out this article on why soft skills are so valuable and what constitutes a “soft skill.” Toward the bottom of the article, you’ll see two lists of soft skills (internal and external) — try jotting down a few examples of how you demonstrate these soft skills at work (and in your everyday life, too!), and look for jobs that value these. Focusing less on your technical skills and more on your soft skills will help you bridge the gap to a new kind of job in the future!
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